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| | Eva Mendes & Ryan Gosling aren't breaking up, they?re just 'super-super-private' | | Added 9 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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Just before Christmas, The Daily Mail & OK! Magazine had sources claiming that Eva Mendes and Ryan Gosling were close to being over. Many of you thought it sounded like Eva had some postpartum depression, and some people thought the rumors of a breakup made total sense because? well, Ryan and Eva have always been such a strange couple. Well, here?s some happy news, I guess: Ryan and Eva spent Christmas together, with their daughter Esmeralda, plus their extended families. Even though Eva and Ryan are SUPER PRIVATE, sources totally snitched to E! News:
Despite recent reports to the contrary, Eva Mendes and Ryan Gosling are doing just fine. A source close to the good-looking duo tells E! News that they “think the tabloid reports about trouble are ridiculous” and that “they just roll their eyes, they honestly don’t care.”
In fact, the new parents to baby Esmeralda spent “a wonderful Christmas together with both her family and his.”
An insider also shares that the actors are content with the dynamic of their new family of three, and aren’t in any rush to tie the knot in the near future.
“Neither felt the need to get married, it’s just not a huge priority for either of them. They know what they have.”
So how exactly did the rumors about the two having trouble in paradise get started? Well, for one thing, Gosling had been filming nonstop in Atlanta in early December, and his leading lady has yet to be seen on set visiting. But there’s a simple explanation for all that, our source explains.
“Ryan and Eva are super-super-private. The last thing they’d do is bring a baby, who’s barely 3 months old, to a film set teeming with paparazzi. Ryan specifically wanted it like this?with paps following him in Atlanta, they’re mostly leaving Eva and the baby alone.
In the meantime, Eva texted pictures and videos of her and the baby to him, “which he loves.”
Back in L.A., while Gosling was hard at work on his upcoming film project, mother and daughter were still adjusting to home life.
“The baby is still not sleeping through the night yet so [Eva's] tired. She’s also still getting used to breastfeeding?it’s not easy. But she’s happily in nesting mode.”
[From E! News]
It sounds like Eva is still adjusting and she wants to just spend some time bonding with the baby. Which is totally normal and fine, although I think it?s a little bit weird that Ryan was scheduled to shoot a movie just weeks after his baby was born. Do you buy the ?super-super-private? explanation? I have mixed feelings about that. Yes, Eva and Ryan really did manage to be super-private about the pregnancy. But there were two years of weird photo-ops by Eva before the pregnancy. For a while there, she was getting pap?d two or three times a week, always in cute outfits, so thirsty for us to acknowledge her relationship with Ryan. So? yeah. Mixed feelings about the ?privacy? argument.
PS… here’s another bad piece of news for all of you Gosling-loonies: his directorial debut, Lost River, isn’t even going to get a theatrical release. It’s going straight-to-DVD after it was laughed out of Cannes in May. Just as well. It sounded horrible and pretentious.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
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| | Ryan Gosling & Eva Mendes are 'barely talking' Eva has pushed him away' | | Added 9 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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OK Magazine says Ryan Gosling and Eva Mendes are pretty much over. I know what you?re thinking: ?OK Magazine? RLY?? But hear me out! OK Magazine was actually the first weekly to confirm Eva?s pregnancy over the summer. Star, Us Weekly and People Magazine actually raced to get to second place on that particular piece of reporting. Which says to me that OK Magazine might actually have a source close to Eva or Ryan. I know that makes no sense, but weirder things have happened. Anyway, OK Mag?s sources say that three months after giving birth to Esmeralda, Eva doesn?t even want to be around Ryan anymore.
They welcomed their daughter Esmeralda Amada three months ago but it seems the pressure of being new parents may be too much for Ryan Gosling and Eva Mendes. OK! Magazine reported Monday the couple have been living separate lives recently. The 40-year-old actress has been struggling at home in Los Angeles with the baby while her 34-year-old actor boyfriend has been filming The Nice Guys for extended periods in Georgia, it was claimed.
The publication was first to report that the brunette was expecting a child with her Beyond The Pines co-star. Neither of their reps had any comment when contacted by MailOnline.
A source told the publication: ‘It’s more than just run-of-the-mill stress that comes with having a newborn. They’re barely talking.’ The source added, ‘Eva has pushed him away.’
Eva reportedly refused to fly to Atlanta with their young daughter to spend time with Ryan. An insider told OK!, ‘So instead of coming home every night to them, he’s jetting back and forth just so he can see his daughter.’
The couple, who started dating in 2011 after filming A Place Beyond The Pines together, welcomed baby Esmeralda on September 12. And the actress has made no secret of how fatigued she has been with her newborn, revealing to Ellen DeGeneres, ‘I’m so incredibly tired.’
The couple kept a very low profile during the pregnancy and haven’t been pictured out together in public for over a year. Eva has only been seen out and about once since the birth – in November – and there are claims that Ryan is worried she is becoming a recluse.
An insider told OK!: ‘The last time Ryan was in LA, he told her that she and Esmeralda needed to get outside for some fresh air, but she just wouldn’t listen.’
And if the couple do decide to part ways, it’s claimed that Eva would fight for full custody, with an insider saying, ‘Eva has been the primary, hands-on parent with Ryan away working so much, so she believes full custody is warranted.’
[From The Daily Mail]
I remember this Radar story from when Eva was still pregnant ? a source insisted that the pregnancy was unplanned, and that Ryan and Eva had actually been going through a breakup and makeup cycle when she got pregnant and Ryan was ?surprised.? The source also insisted that Eva desperately wanted to marry Ryan and he wasn?t into it. I don?t really know what to believe, but I?ve always thought they were a weird, mismatched couple and it wouldn?t surprise me if the pregnancy was a ?surprise? during a breakup, and it also wouldn?t surprise me if SURPRISE, a baby isn?t enough to hold Ryan and Eva together forever. Or even one more year.
Photos courtesy of PCN, WENN.
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| | Ryan Gosling is too 'artsy, serious' to agree to be People's Sexiest Man Alive | | Added 10 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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I tend to think the reaction to Chris Hemsworth being named the 2014 Sexiest Man Alive was a resounding ?meh.? People weren?t angry about the choice, people acknowledge that he?s a good-looking guy with a fantastic Thor-body. But are there scores of women out there who are, like, all about Hemsworth and only Hemsworth? Not really. But, as I said, at least people weren?t angry. Everyone was truly ANGRY when Bradley Cooper was named the SMA back in 2011. People actually protested the choice of B-Coop, mainly (I suppose) because 2011 was seen as ?Ryan Gosling?s year,? like he was the one in the news and it was the height of the Hey-Girl-dom. I guess the Gosloonies always thought that People Magazine snubbed him outright. But The Wrap?s sources now say that Gosling got the approach about SMA a few times and he turned them down every time:
People magazine’s annual ?Sexiest Man Alive? issue has sparked backlash yet again, for passing over actor Ryan Gosling as cover star ? but the ?The Notebook? actor has repeatedly turned down the honor, an insider told TheWrap. So to use a catchphrase in the spirit of the web’s most popular Gosling memes: ?Hey girl, calm the Internet down.?
?They tried a few times, especially during his huge year in 2011,? an individual close to the cover negotiations said. Multiple efforts were consistently squashed by the actor’s team.
?The consensus was he’s too serious for it, too artsy,? the individual added.
A spokesperson for Gosling has not yet returned TheWrap’s request for comment. People’s Editorial Director told TheWrap: ?While I look forward to the day when Ryan Gosling is named Sexiest Man Alive, this was not his year. Our 2014 honoree Chris Hemsworth was our first and only choice. If you want to know why, just look at him. I mean, seriously.?
Outlets like BuzzFeed and rabid, Gosling-obsessed Tumblr users mourned his absent mug each year, even taking their protest to the front steps of Time Inc.’s New York headquarters. But it’s the ?Drive? star who speeds away from the glory.
We understand the bid to be taken seriously, as Gosling’s silent and brooding acting style earns him art house cred. But there’s no ignoring he’s the Internet’s collective boyfriend: street fight referee, feminist icon and refuser of cereal all rolled into one. Yes, the superlative is superficial. Accepting usually entails an obligatory shirtless or flexing photo shoot, sidebars about ab routines and a giddy Q&A. But the exposure is priceless and the reign a whole 12 months.
Also, since it’s 1985 launch, ?Sexiest Man? has some alumni most people would deem substantial actors: George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Ben Affleck, Bradley Cooper and Tom Cruise to name a few. Gosling devotees shouldn’t abandon hope just yet. A shift in his perspective might sway him to eventually grace the cover.
The recent birth of his daughter Esemeralda may inspire some adventure. It’s a raging cliche in the realm of celeb maternity that stars don’t fully appreciate their bodies until giving birth. Ryan didn’t do the pushing (shout out Eva Mendes!) but maybe some of that empowerment will rub off.
[From The Wrap]
I think this is the truth. I think People Magazine?s editors have approached Gosling?s people before ? perhaps not this year, but in years past ? and Gosling has shut it down. I also believe he?s shut it down because he believes he?s too artistic, that one shouldn?t have to hustle for one?s art. I also think Gosling doesn?t really give a crap about being the internet?s boyfriend, you know? He?s never played into it the same way some people (CUMBERCOUGH) have. Still? if you get turned down by Gosling, why in the world would you then settle on BRADLEY COOPER?!
Photos of Gosling from the past week, courtesy of WENN & Fame/Flynet.
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| | Ryan Gosling & Eva Mendes named their daughter Esmeralda Amada Gosling | | Added 10 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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Ryan Gosling and Eva Mendes welcomed their first child, a baby girl, back in September. Since then, we haven?t heard much about or from them. ?Sources? kept going on and on about Ryan crying in the delivery room and how Eva is super-happy with motherhood, but no one gave much time to those stories because A) the quotes were mostly generalizations about how ALL parents feel and B) because none of the ?sources? had any info about the baby name. Well, finally we know the girl?s name. And we know because TMZ got their hands on the birth certificate. The baby?s name is? Esmeralda Amada Gosling.
Ryan Gosling and Eva Mendes’ baby name may have been inspired by one of the characters she played in a Mark Wahlberg movie. Gosling and Mendes named their daughter Esmeralda Amada … according to the baby’s birth certificate, obtained by TMZ.
Amada was the name of Eva’s character in “We Own the Night” — and Esmeralda, well … maybe she’s a big fan of the ’96 Disney flick “The Hunchback of Notre Dame.”
[From TMZ]
Esmeralda sounds like a mouthful for a baby, which is why Bedhead & I think that they?re probably calling her Esme. Esme is hipster-friendly, with literary flair because of JD Salinger?s ?For Esm?with Love and Squalor? short story. The problem with calling her Esme is that it?s also a Twilight reference. They could always call her Essie!! I?m not a big fan of Amada, mostly because I keep reading it as ?armada? and who wants to think of boats when they?re looking at a baby?!
Photos courtesy of Pacific Coast News & WENN.
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| | E!: Ryan Gosling 'was in tears when he saw his daughter for the first time' | | Added 10 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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Some of you accuse of me of putting too much stock in tabloid reporting. I am gullible about gossip sometimes, in that I usually believe the worst about people and, obviously, I am the target market for tabloids. So it?s a rarity for me to say that I really think all of the tabloids are full of it about Ryan Gosling and Eva Mendes at this point. Eva was pregnant for MONTHS without anyone revealing the secret. We know that Eva and Ryan welcomed a daughter, I guess, but no one has come forward and revealed the name. How is it possible that a ?source? is close enough to Ryan and Eva to describe how they cried when their daughter was born, and yet that source won?t tell us the baby?s name?
It’s official: the world just became a little more beautiful…because Eva Mendes and Ryan Gosling have welcomed a baby girl! The 40-year-old actress gave birth to the couple’s first child together on Friday in Los Angeles, E! News has confirmed. The notoriously private pair, who never officially confirmed that they were expecting, have yet to publicly share the baby news and it’s unlikely that they will formally announce the birth.
But that doesn’t mean that the lovebirds, who first began dating back in September 2011, haven’t been enjoying their baby bliss in private!
“Eva is so happy she’s a mom, their baby girl is perfect!” a source tells E! News of the proud parents’ bundle of joy. “They are at home now with the baby and Eva is feeling great she says. She’s so good with kids and has been wanting this a really long time. When she found out she was having a girl, she was freaking out. She kind of wanted a girl deep down, but of course just wants a happy and healthy baby! Ryan is saying he is going to be overpowered with girls in the house and is gonna have to be extra manly around the house!”
While the pair has yet to reveal the name of their little one, Mendes continues to tell family and friends “how in love she is” with her darling daughter. “Everyone is saying the baby looks like Eva and has her features,” the source said of the wee one, who we can only presume is one gorgeous little girl.
The pair is clearly over the moon when it comes to the newest edition to their family and the duo even shed a few tears of joy upon first setting sights on their bundle of joy.
“It was very emotional for Eva and Ryan,” the insider said of their daughter’s birth. “They were both in tears when they saw their daughter for the first time!”
[From E! News]
Sure, I?ll believe that Ryan cried when he held his daughter. Because that?s an educated guess ? most men and women are extremely emotional when they hold their babies for the first time. That would be like a ?source? saying, ?Ryan touched his daughter?s little fingers.? OF COURSE HE DID. Tell us the name, ?sources?!!! Oh, and do you think she got Eva?s coloring? Probably.
Ryan?s mom and sister were also spotted at Ryan and Eva?s home this week ? go here to see photos.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
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| | Eva Mendes & Ryan Gosling reportedly welcomed a baby girl last Friday | | Added 10 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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Back in July, we heard that Eva Mendes and Ryan Gosling were expecting their first child. The reports were weird, mostly because Eva has been keeping a very low profile for much of this year, so much so that many outlets claimed that Eva and Ryan were already done. By the time the pregnancy was sort-of confirmed, Eva was allegedly seven months along. Well… it looks like that was about right. She and Ryan have welcomed a baby girl.
Hey girl, indeed! Eva Mendes and Ryan Gosling welcomed a baby girl on Friday, Sept. 12, multiple sources confirm exclusively to Us Weekly.
Us confirmed in July that Mendes, 40, and Gosling, 33, were expecting a baby together. At the time, rumors swirled that the Urban Legends actress was already seven months along.
Earlier this year, Mendes laughed off pregnancy rumors during an appearance on The Ellen DeGeneres Show. “It’s so ridiculous,” she said back in February. “It all started because I didn’t want to go through the scanners at the airport. You know those X-ray scanners, which are really creepy? They basically see you naked, right? And not only that, but there’s a radiation aspect to it, so I always opt out.”
Mendes kept a low profile during her pregnancy, making her last red carpet appearance at a Violet Grey dinner honoring the late Elizabeth Taylor in L.A. on Feb. 26. After news broke, she went to considerable lengths to cover up her baby bump with several pieces of clothing and a large bag while leaving a parking structure in L.A. on June 10. Gosling, meanwhile, quietly stepped out to pump his own gas in L.A. on Aug. 5.
Gosling doted on Mendes as the couple prepared for their newborn’s arrival. “Ryan goes out and gets the groceries. [Eva's] been wanting pasta, and he’s cooking her meals,” a source previously told Us. “Ryan has already stepped into the role of caring father-to-be.”
[From Us Weekly]
Well, congrats to them. I can’t wait to hear the name. I bet it won’t be a flat-out insane name. My money’s on, like, Isabella Harper Gosling or something. Anyway, we’re now living in a world where Ryan Gosling and Eva Mendes are parents to a baby girl. Feel all the feels, Hey Girls.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet.
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| | Star: Ryan Gosling wept openly & profusely after sex with a random club girl | | Added 10 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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I sometimes worry that I?m too unemotional. I?ve been accused of talking, writing, thinking and acting ?like a man? many times before, which I?ve always taken as someone else?s observation that I?m not into the frilly, touchy-feely stuff of life. I have a low tolerance for pillow-weepers, for one. Unless it?s Lloyd Dobler, I?m not really interested in man-tears, especially after (or during) sex. Incidentally, that was one of the worst parts of the Fifty Shades of Grey book ? after every sex act, it felt like Ana Steele started weeping. STOP CRYING. I don?t even like men who have that ?pillow-weeper look? which can basically be summed up as: Jim Sturgess.
So, maybe that?s why I?ve never been into Ryan Gosling. Maybe somewhere, in the deepest recesses of my mind, I realized that Gosling is what I hate/fear the most: a guy who cries after sex. At least that?s what one ?source? tells Star Magazine in their cover story this week, which is all about normal, non-celebrity people who have dated celebrities. The Gosling story is one of the best!
Ryan Gosling brought movie fans to tears in The Notebook. But on one date, it was Ryan who turned on the waterworks.
?He was the best lover I?ve ever had,? recalls a curvy blonde, who shared a night of passion with Ryan after meeting him at a nightclub. But once the lovemaking was over, things took a turn.
?I thought I heard him sniffling,? she says. ?Then I realized he had tears gushing down his face. I asked if he was all right, and he said he gets emotional sometimes.?
[From Star Magazine, print edition]
I?m not completely heartless. If you?re in a committed, loving relationship, I could see how a dude crying after sex would be a good thing, a sign of true emotional maturity. But this was a one night stand!!! Is this really who Ryan is in real life? Is he the guy who cries after hot sex with a random club girl?
Photos courtesy of WENN.
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| | Ryan Gosling & Eva Mendes' pregnancy was unplanned, 'Ryan was surprised' | | Added 10 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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As I keep saying, there is something ?literally? fishy about Ryan Gosling and Eva Mendes and their undercover pregnancy. I just keep waiting for the other shoe to drop, for one piece of information to be released which will be just the gossip I need to make sense out of all of this. Thus far, the tabloids have claimed that Ryan and Eva are both thrilled, that Eva is the one who wants an undercover pregnancy and Ryan is the one ensuring her privacy. So what am I missing? Well, this Radar report might have some interesting details (if you believe Radar).
Eva Mendes and Ryan Gosling?s baby news stunned the world ? and the couple themselves! RadarOnline.com has learned that Mendes? pregnancy was totally unplanned, and blindsided Gosling because their relationship had hit a rough patch just before Mendes shared the news.
When Mendes, 40, discovered she was pregnant, ?It was completely unplanned,? an insider told Radar. ?Ryan was surprised, especially because they had broken up early last year, only to get back together.?
The stars first hooked up filming The Place Beyond the Pines three years ago, and have been through their shares of highs and lows since. Said the source of their rocky relationship, ?Their disagreements always come back to a central issue: Eva wants to marry Ryan, but so far, he has resisted.?
Now, however, pregnant Mendes has moved in with Gosling at his bachelor pad, according to the source. ?The house is quite small, and only has two bedrooms,? the source revealed. ?Eva has been looking for a bigger house to live in with Ryan once the baby is born.?
As for Ryan, the insider told Radar that despite the element of surprise, ?Ryan is excited to be a father, and will be very protective.?
That doesn?t mean it?s been smooth sailing lately, however.
In recent days, the source said, ?Eva has been upset with Ryan over his reaction to comments Nick [Cassavetes, director of The Notebook], publicly made about Ryan feuding on set with Rachel McAdams.?
After the comments, the source said, ?Ryan called Nick and voiced his displeasure about him talking about his ex-girlfriend. Ryan is very protective of his privacy, and of the people around him. Rachel shouldn?t have to be asked about it as she is out promoting a new movie.?
The source claimed, ?Rachel is definitely a source of ongoing tension between Ryan and Eva.?
[From Radar]
I?ll buy that the pregnancy was unplanned. But I don?t buy that Eva dreams of being a bride and Ryan was the dude who didn?t want to put a ring on it. I just don?t think that?s their dynamic. If anything, Ryan seems more old-fashioned about marriage and babies, and my guess is that he?d like to marry Eva, maybe even before she gives birth. But why would she? She got what she wanted ? Ryan attached to her forever (even though they?d already broken up at least once).
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
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| | Ryan Gosling 'has been very supportive' about Eva's need to keep things 'secret' | | Added 10 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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Now that OK! Magazine broke the story (I still can?t believe that happened) of Eva Mendes? pregnancy, all of the other magazines are climbing aboard the Speculation Train. First stop for the Speculation Train? Shotgun Marriage Junction. A ?close pal of Eva?s? told Life & Style that Eva definitely wants to marry Ryan but it?s all very ?eventually.? The source says: ?I think they will wed after the baby is born. Eva would love to eventually marry Ryan and be a family with their new baby.? Just FYI, “source”: they?re already a family. A piece of paper doesn?t make you any more of a family, but other than that? it?s their business. I kind of thought Eva was gun-shy about marriage, but God knows these days. The source also says that ?Ryan has changed the way she feels about? marriage and she used to think it was ?archaic.? Ah, looks like Eva had a detour at Waiting For the Ring City? Meanwhile, People Mag had a decent story:
In the age of social media and cell phone cameras, just how did Ryan Gosling and Eva Mendes keep her pregnancy hidden for so long? The actress, 40, who is due in October, “just hasn’t ever wanted anyone beyond her close friends and family knowing more than they had to,” an insider tells PEOPLE in this week’s issue. “And Ryan is certainly private and always has been.”
Now living together in 33-year-old Gosling’s modest Studio City home, the couple also embraced a lifestyle that aided their efforts for secrecy.
“Their lives completely changed as soon as Eva got pregnant,” says a source. “They used to travel all over the place together and go on hikes with their dogs.”
But in the last few months, Mendes “barely left the house,” adds the source. “Ryan has been taking care of her, picking up food and running errands. He has been very supportive about keeping things a secret.”
The actress, who was last photographed in March, is also proving to be adept at covering up her baby bump as she demonstrated in an L.A. parking garage on July 9. She was also conspicuously absent at this year’s Cannes Film Festival, where the couple’s film, Lost River, premiered in May.
What can’t be contained is the pair’s excitement.
“This has been a long time coming,” says a pal. “Ryan and Eva definitely discussed children before. She knows how much he wants to be a dad and he’s going to be an amazing father.”
[From People]
She?s due in October? So? she?s about six months along now? That seems more reasonable than some of the other gossip. Here?s what I don?t get though: ?He has been very supportive about keeping things a secret.? It sounds like the secrecy was her call and he?s just going along with it? I swear to God, there is something really fishy going on here.
Oh, and People also says that they?re house-hunting for a bigger place in LA because now they?re just living in her (?) two-bedroom in Studio City.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
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| | Ryan Gosling does all the grocery shopping for Eva & he cooks for her too | | Added 10 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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The meltdown of the Ryan Gosling?s Hey Girls last week was both funny and frightening. It was funny because so many ladies still love Gosling?s hipster normcore shtick and there was genuine panic that he impregnated his girlfriend of what? Four years? The frightening part was that Eva Mendes got a lot of hate. While I think there is something (literally!) fishy about all of this, I want to believe that Ryan isn?t douching out on Eva and that this isn?t a band-aid baby. Us Weekly says that it?s not a band-aid baby. Their sources say Ryan is taking care of his lady:
File this under “More Reasons to Love Ryan Gosling.” The Only God Forgives actor, who’s expecting a baby with actress Eva Mendes, has taken on the job of personal chef for his pregnant girlfriend, a source reveals in the new issue of Us Weekly.
“Ryan goes out and gets the groceries,” the insider tells Us of the Notebook hunk. “[Eva's] been wanting pasta, and he’s cooking her meals.” Adds the source: “Ryan has already stepped into the role of caring father-to-be.”
As previously reported, Gosling, 33, and Mendes, 40, are set to welcome their first child together in just a few months’ time. They clicked on the set of The Place Beyond the Pines back in 2011 — the same year, incidentally, that the actor expressed his desire to start a family.
“I’d like to be making babies but I’m not, so I’m making movies,” he told the U.K.-based paper The Times that September. “When someone comes along, I don’t think I’ll be able to do both and I’m fine with that. I’ll make movies until I make babies.”
For more on Ryan and Eva’s big news — including how they went from friends to more than friends, what his crew thinks of her, and how he knew she was The One — pick up the new issue of Us Weekly, on stands Friday.
[From Us Weekly]
I included that last part ? about his ?crew? ? because?? Ryan has a ?crew?? Let?s be real ? he has some dude friends and maybe they?re his bros, but I doubt they?re a crew. As for Ryan?s kitchen skills? okay. He?s cooking for her. He?s doing all of the grocery shopping. But what else? I need more details. If he putting together the crib and organizing the nursery? Is Ryan?s crew planning the baby shower? Details, people.
Photos courtesy of Joe Alvarez, WENN.
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