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| | Demi Moore comes out of hiding: did she get some post-split tweaking? | | Added 12 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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These are photos of Demi Moore and her daughter Rumer at a charity event benefiting J/P Haitian Relief last night. Let?s get the superficial stuff out of the way first – okay, Rumer looks good! I still hate this hair color on her, but compared to her mom, Rumer looks fresh, young and sober. Demi looks? well, she?s gained a little weight back since the last time we had photos of her. She doesn?t look like a stiff wind will topple her. But she?s gotten some post-split tweaking, and that?s sad. Her face looks like a mask.
Anyway, several media outlets are buzzing about a run-in Demi had with Ashton Kutcher. Every year, the agency CAA throws a huge bash before the Golden Globes, and both Demi and Ashton were in attendance. Us Weekly said their run-in was ?awkward? but they did speak to each other:
If Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore are trying to avoid one another after announcing their split last November, they need to try harder!
The exes had another awkward run-in on Friday night at a star-studded CAA Foundation pre-Golden Globes bash at SoHo House in West Hollywood.
Kutcher, 33, ran into Moore, 49, at the private party, multiple sources confirm to Us Weekly. But the former couple kept it brief, one insider says. “I saw him briefly say hi to her, but that was it. They spent most of the evening keeping a distance.”
Although still noticeably “skinny,” Margin Call star Moore “looked amazing,” another source added. The former couple (whose sixth wedding anniversary in September was marred by Kutcher’s fling with Sara Leal, 22, at a San Diego hotel) had plenty of VIP pals to distract them from one another. Other A-list attendees at the soiree included Cameron Diaz, Leonardo DiCaprio, P Diddy, Bradley Cooper (smoking an electronic cigarette), Kate Hudson (chatting with Robert Downey, Jr.) and Bill Maher.
Moore’s pal for much of the night? Her longtime buddy and fellow Kabbalah enthusiast Madonna, whose ex-husband Sean Penn was also spotted at the bash.
Kutcher gabbed with Liz Merriwether, creator of FOX smash New Girl. He showed off a new look — a clean-shaven face and a closer-cropped haircut at a TCA panel for Two and a Half Men on Wednesday.
[From Us Weekly]
Page Six?s version is a bit more detailed – read the full story here. They claim that Ashton was the one to approach Demi, and he came over to her while she was sitting with Madonna and Sean Penn – to be a fly on that wall, eh? A source tells Page Six, ?Within five minutes of them seeing each other, Ashton did come over. It was a crowded room so he made his way over. Demi and Ashton, and Madonna and Sean, were talking and hanging out. Ashton and Demi didn?t arrive together, or spend the whole night together, but it was 100 percent normal. There wasn?t an issue.? After they spoke, Demi and Ashton spent the rest of the night apart. Page Six also says that Cameron Diaz and P. Diddy were there, and they were ?really cozy? together on a couch. Also, P. Diddy threw a ?tantrum? directed at the bartenders because they wouldn?t serve him Ciroc vodka (the event was sponsored by Grey Goose).
Photos courtesy of WENN.
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| | Demi Moore is boning another 20-something model, because she's a genius | | Added 12 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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Here?s an honest-to-God question: how dumb is Demi Moore? You already know how I think her publicity team should be presenting the post-divorce Demi. I didn?t expect anyone representing Demi to actually listen to or follow my advice, but I?m still offended that the course Demi is on seems to make her look so stupid and pathetic. So, you know how Demi just got out of a relationship with a boy toy 17 years her junior? You know how she and Ashton met when he was in his mid-20s? Yeah. Replay that. Only this time, make it WAY more budget. People Magazine reports that Demi is likely boning a 26-year-old ?model? named Blake Corl-Baietti. You can see photos of them together here.
Has Demi Moore found a new guy ? or is she just intensifying her workout?
The actress, 49, was spotted Saturday in L.A. with Blake Corl-Baietti, a 26-year-old California personal trainer who also models.
In a 2009 profile on the modeling web site One Model Place, Corl-Baietti says, “As far as my interests are concerned, I am as renaissance as it gets. I love anything outdoors, learning as much as I can, and [ gaining] any kind of life experience possible.”
Describing himself as “fun-loving” and “honest,” Corl-Baietti also says that he “PROUDLY [serves] in the California National Guard and am in college pursuing a degree in kinesiology.”
Moore, who recently told Harper’s Bazaar that she worries that she’s “not worthy of being loved,” has maintained a low profile since splitting from husband Ashton Kutcher, 33, in November.
A rep for Moore has not responded to a request for comment.
[From People]
Ugh. Between this and the whole ?Demi spent Christmas dirty dancing with strangers while her daughter looked on, horrified? story, I?ve come to the conclusion that Demi is never going to take my advice. She just has it in her head that she has to compete with the 20-something girls. She has it in her head that she should be positioning herself as a free-wheeling, still-relevant, still-sexy ?girl?. She doesn?t understand that she could have an entirely new, sexy image as a mature woman who isn?t so desperate, who doesn?t date whatever male model she finds.
Here are some modeling shots of Blake – he?s not as facially challenged as Jennifer Lopez?s boy-toy, but I?m not feeling anything but a ping on my gaydar. He?s too waxed and androgynous for me.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Blake?s modeling shots.
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| | Demi Moore worries that 'I?m really not lovable, I?m not worthy of being loved' | | Added 12 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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Demi Moore covers the February issue of Harper’s Bazaar with a covershoot that is obviously photoshopped to the max. No news there, but the accompanying interview is slightly more interesting, since Demi is promoting her new producing gig with “The Conversation,” a show that will premiere on Lifetime. The interview is really more of a conversation between Demi and her producing partner, Amanda de Cadenet, who reveal that their show will “featur[e] strikingly frank discussions with A-listers,” i.e. prominent women that will discuss “the universal themes in women’s lives” such relationships, body image, sex, career. It’s a great concept, but the guests are guaranteed to be sanctimonious as hell.
Sure enough, Demi and Amanda have revealed that Gwyneth Paltrow — in all her infinite wisdom — has been interviewed for the show. Of course, there are other “strong” women like Alicia Keys, Lady Gaga, and Jane Fonda who will appear as well, but Demi and Amanda have singled out Goop as being able to spout the best “listen to your inner guide” sort of mantra. Spare me. With Goop, the inner guide pretty much says, “Marry a super rich guy, exercise two hours per day, and cleanse the colon regularly.” Oh, and “Discuss one’s exquisite friendships with the Dalai Lama and Beyonce at every given opportunity.” Inner guide, my ass.
Anyway, Demi herself comes across pretty well (despite the title of this post) during this particular conversation, which was conducted “post-Thanksgiving” and, therefore, in the wake of Demi filing for divorce from her douche husband. Mercifully, Ashton is mentioned nowhere during this discussion. Instead, this interview is something of a graceful dance between two girlfriends, which is kind of where I like to think of Demi these days; that is, not doing a sexy dance for men or pretending to be Gloria Steinem. Instead, she’s merely hanging with a girlfriend, and they’re supporting each other. Here are a few excerpts:
On Body Image: “I have had a love-hate relationship with my body. When I’m at the greatest odds with my body, it’s usually because I feel my body’s betraying me, whether that’s been in the past, struggling with my weight and feeling that I couldn’t eat what I wanted to eat, or that I couldn’t get my body to do what I wanted it to do. I think I sit today in a place of greater acceptance of my body, and that includes not just my weight but all of the things that come with your changing body as you age to now experiencing my body as extremely thin – thin in a way that I never imagined somebody would be saying to me, ‘You’re too thin, and you don’t look good.’”
On Abandonment & The Unknown: “I used to think that what scared me was the idea of being abandoned until someone said to me, ‘Only children can be abandoned. Adults can’t be abandoned because we have a choice. Children don’t have a choice.’ So I started to rethink. ‘Okay, it’s not that. What’s the underlying thread that really scares me?’ I think what scares me is not having the courage to reach my full potential . . . which means that I would allow fear, insecurity, and doubt to rule me and that I would ask for only a little of what is actually there for me. It would mean that I would be settling.
“And so for me, it’s not just about reaching my potential in terms of my career. It goes more to the idea of being whole, of loving oneself. And I think there is no way to reach your fullest potential if you don’t really find the love of yourself. If I were to answer it just kind of bold-faced, I would say what scares me is that I’m going to ultimately find out at the end of my life that I’m really not lovable, that I’m not worthy of being loved. That there’s something fundamentally wrong with me.
“And that I wasn’t wanted here in the first place, so the fight against gravity for me is to find that love for myself that gives me the courage to reach my fullest potential, to actually receive this abundance that’s really there. I also think that what scares you goes back to being a kid; what really scares you is not knowing. What scares me the most is not knowing and accepting that just about everything is not in my control. That makes me feel unsafe.”
On Comfort: “I think being comfortable is perhaps overrated. I think a better word than comfortable is accepting. Accepting weaknesses and strengths and being more able to celebrate all of it as a whole package. Well, it indicates an illusion as opposed to the reality, which is that we don’t live in black and white – we live in the gray – and that, as you’re saying, stepping out of the familiar, the known, the comfortable, allows us to become more whole and complete. So to answer the question ‘Have I become more comfortable with myself as a woman?’ I would say that I have in the sense of valuing myself, certainly more than I did when I was a teenager.”
On Her Idea Of Freedom: “Letting go of the outcome. Truly being in the moment. Not reflecting on the past. Not projecting into the future. That’s freedom. Not caring more about what other people think than what you think. That’s freedom. To not be defined by your wounds. Somebody wrote something to me that said, ‘Don’t let your wounds make you become someone you’re not.’ That’s really powerful.”
[From Harper's Bazaar]
I’m relieved that Demi seems to acknowledge that she’s grown far too thin during the past year or so because she really looks incredibly frail these days. Her other statements ring very true as well, and I understand that baring her soul during the course of this conversation was both (1) Very planned; (2) In the interest of promoting her Lifetime show. Yet Demi still comes off remarkably lucid, particularly in light of her recent painful split.
Oddly enough, Demi also confesses to her guilty pleasure, which is watching “Jersey Shore.” I do hope she’s not scoping out DJ Pauly D as her next sexual conquest. Don’t go there, Demi! Sadly though, all of the guys on that show combined are less revolting than her soon-to-be ex-husband. And that’s saying something.
Photos courtesy of Harper’s Bazaar
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| | Demi Moore will play Gloria Steinem in 'Lovelace?: believable or give me a break' | | Added 12 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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When I first read about this story, the first thought to spring to mind was that someone in Demi Moore’s camp had persuaded her to take Kaiser’s advice and position herself much differently for the post-Ashton era of life. You know, after Ashton made his wife look like a fool by sleeping around with randoms for almost the entirety of their six-year marriage. Kaiser’s point was that Demi didn’t need to be playing Ms. Sexy Young Thing by dancing for salivating men in bars and, instead, should forge a new image of confidence and maturity.
Well, Demi has just taken a step towards doing just that by signing onto play noted feminist Gloria Steinem in the much-maligned Linda Loveless biopic called Loveless. Yes, it’s a movie about porn, but ever since the film’s producers dropped Lindsay Lohan in the leading role, all sorts of A-to-B-listers have signed onto the movie. Oddly enough, Amanda Seyfried is now playing Linda (although Malin Akerman was briefly rumored for the part as well), but I guess the least surprising casting news of all is the role of Hugh Hefner, who will be played by (who else?) James Franco, who will probably show his butt and then insist that someone get fired for not appreciating it enough. Hopefully, Demi will steer clear of that nonsense, right?
Coming off strong reviews for her supporting turns in Margin Call and Another Happy Day, Demi Moore is set to cameo as feminist activist Gloria Steinem in Lovelace, which has also added Adam Brody and Eric Roberts to its ensemble cast.
Rob Epstein and Jeffrey Friedman are directing the indie drama, which stars Amanda Seyfried as Linda Boreman, who, as Linda Lovelace, became the world’s first erotic superstar due to the success of Deep Throat.
Peter Sarsgaard and Sharon Stone co-star alongside Juno Temple, Wes Bentley, Hank Azaria, Bobby Cannavale, Chris Noth, Robert Patrick, Romeo Brown and James Franco, who’s working out his schedule to accommodate a cameo as Playboy founder Hugh Hefner.
Steinem founded Ms. Magazine, which published the infamous article “The Real Linda Lovelace,” in which Steinem discussed Linda’s relationship with her abusive pornographer husband Chuck Traynor, who she blamed for creating the myth that Linda “loved to be sexually used and humiliated.” When Lovelace announced her first memoir Ordeal, she was joined at the press conference by Steinem and other supportive members of the feminist group Women Against Pornography. Steinem later wrote the introduction for Lovelace’s 1986 memoir, Out of Bondage.
Brody will play Linda’s Deep Throat co-star Harry Reems, while Roberts will play Nat Laurendi, the lie detector expert who administered a polygraph test to Linda at the request of her publisher.
[From Variety]
While I’m not entirely certain that this movie will be good news for the career of anyone involved, this is definitely a step in the right direction for Demi. It will probably also bode well for her to gain a few pounds in advance of filming so that she doesn’t constantly remind the film’s audience of a woman who used weight loss as a cry for help towards her cheating, (borderline?) misogynistic husband. Can Demi actually pull off the role though? I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
Here’s a photo of Gloria Steinem herself at the Women’s Media Awards on 11/30 of last year.
Photos courtesy of Fame
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| | Demi Moore needs to fire her publicist & position herself much differently | | Added 12 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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Demi Moore has been keeping a very low profile since officially splitting with Ashton Kutcher. I think she?s only been photographed a few times in the past two months, and the photos were super-exclusive (so we don?t have them). From what I?ve seen, Demi still looks really drawn, tired and really, really thin. I?ll give her credit for not arranging some ?candid? photo-ops to show off ?The New, Single Demi? – but I worry that she hasn?t arranged those photo ops because she?s not in a good place right now. Still, Demi?s publicist (the one she shares with Jennifer Aniston, btw) is working overtime to convince us that Demi has still ?got it? and that EVERYBODY finds her sexy and desirable, of course. Look at the obviousness of this Page Six plant:
Demi Moore looked like she was back in action during a mother-daughter Christmas vacation in Turks and Caicos. Though the actress has kept a very low profile since her split with estranged husband Ashton Kutcher, she seemed to shake off any malaise from her impending divorce with some holiday booty-shakin? in the Caribbean.
The ?Margin Call? star and svelte mother of three, 49, was spotted with her daughter, Rumer Willis, at the uber-private Parrot Cay resort, where the two shared a rocking Christmas Eve at a poolside bar and Moore ?danced up a storm.?
Spies tell Page Six that when Rumer took over DJing duties, Moore began to boogie.
?Demi was dancing seductively for all the guys [at the bar] and they were going nuts,? one spy told us. Another added, ?Demi could do ?The Wiggles? dance and still look hot.?
The slinky moves even earned the raven-haired beauty the nickname ?Single Hot Demi? or, simply, ?SHD,? from other hotel guests during their stay.
Rumer?s DJing turn didn?t get quite as high marks as her mother?s moves, a spy said.
Ironically, Moore and Kutcher headed to Parrot Cay just last month for a romantic getaway, to try and repair their marriage and celebrate Moore?s 49th birthday, after Kutcher was caught cheating with Sara Leal, 22.
But shortly after their tropical escape, Moore announced she?ll file for divorce. Moore and Kutcher often vacationed on the island at the private residence of Moore?s ex, Bruce Willis.
On this, more happy, trip, Demi and Rumer were also spotted having dinner with Donna Karan and her daughter Gabby.
Other celebrities in Parrot Cay for the holidays included Charlize Theron, with her mother, and ?Mission: Impossible ? Ghost Protocol? producer J.J. Abrams and his wife, Katie McGrath.
Reps for Moore could not be reached. A rep for Parrot Cay declined to comment.
[From Page Six]
Ugh, ?Demi could do ?The Wiggles? dance and still look hot.? SRSLY? Stop it. It?s not 1994. It?s not even 2004. Demi?s fall-back publicity position should NOT be ?Let?s make everyone think Demi is super-sexy and single and she can compete with the younger girls!? Demi is 49 years old, and she just went through a very public debacle when her younger husband screwed around on her openly. Find a new image for the post-Ashton Demi, you know? Create an image of a confident, capable woman of means and maturity. Talk up her producing projects, get Demi a gig on a quality television show, sign her to a memoir deal for a huge sum of money and get her to go on dates with men closer to her age. Don?t position her as a delusional divorcee, clinging to the dusty fragments of her youth by any means possible.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame.
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| | Demi Moore Is Keeping Her Twitter Handle | | Added 13 years ago | Source: The Blemish |
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The foremost concern on everybody’s mind is “will Demi Moore change her Twitter handle now that she’s divorcing Ashton Kutcher?” Well, Demi has your answer and it’s no, probably not.
@MrsKutcher tweeted, “changing my twitter name isn’t a top priority right now. sorry it bothers so many of u. should I not tweet until I do?does it really matter?”
No, it doesn’t matter. You’ll just BURN IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY if you don’t. Oops, sorry for that. I was just practicing for whenever a story of Megan Fox being pregnant comes out and she refuses to get an abortion.
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| | Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore Officially Divorcing | | Added 13 years ago | Source: The Blemish |
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Apparently no amount of Kabbalah therapy could save their marriage as Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore announced today that they’re getting a divorce. Ashton naturally took to Twitter to post, “I will forever cherish the time I spent with Demi. Marriage is one of the most difficult things in the world and unfortunately sometimes they fail. Love and Light, AK.” I like how Ashton implies outside forces were responsible for the failure of his marriage and not the fact he banged a bunch of whores while Demi wasn’t looking.
Meanwhile, Demi eschewed a social media statement and went old school with a plain old regular statement through the wire. She said, ?It is with great sadness and a heavy heart that I have decided to end my six-year marriage to Ashton. As a woman, a mother and a wife there are certain values and vows that I hold sacred, and it is in this spirit that I have chosen to move forward with my life. This is a trying time for me and my family, and so I would ask for the same compassion and privacy that you would give to anyone going through a similar situation.? That was basically Demi putting all the blame on Ashton for the dissolution of their marriage.
In other news, Kim Kardashian jumped for joy because this is going to take some of the heat off her own fake marriage/divorce. Now she and her people don’t have to go through with their plan of leaking pictures of a fat(ter) Khloe Kardashian and implying she’s pregnant.
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| | Demi Moore Announces Plans to Divorce Ashton Kutcher | | Added 13 years ago | Source: Celebrity Gossip |
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Bringing an end to their wedded bliss, Demi Moore has announced plans to divorce Ashton Kutcher.
Making a statement on the matter released on Thursday (November 17), the "Ghost" actress told, "It is with great sadness and a heavy heart that I have decided to end my six-year marriage to Ashton. As a woman, a mother and a wife there are certain values and vows that I hold sacred, and it is in this spirit that I have chosen to move forward with my life."
"This is a trying time for me and my family, and so I would ask for the same compassion and privacy that you would give to anyone going through a similar situation," the 49-year-old actress added.
Moore and Kutcher spent six years married to one another, with the rift occurring after scandalous rumors of an anniversary weekend hotel threesome including Ashton and two other ladies emerged last month.
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| | Did Demi Moore cheat on Ashton with one of his friends, Ben Hollingsworth? | | Added 13 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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In Touch Weekly has an interesting cover story this week, all about Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher. Sidenote: Demi and Ashton would have been my pick for ?divorce announcement? this week, but I think Kim Kardashian stole their thunder. Or maybe Demi isn?t leaving, and this is her push-back against all of the stories that Ashton cheated on her ass because she?s ?so old?. Is this from Team Demi? Unknown. But it does make Demi look better, mostly because it makes her sound like the kind of 40-plus woman who still catches 20-somethings.
A source claims that Demi, 48, is so insecure about her age difference with hubby Ashton, 33, that she carried on an affair with younger actor Ben Hollingsworth, 27! Read on for all the details of their scandalous relationship!
While Ashton Kutcher reportedly had two flings with Brittney Jones and Sara Leal, Demi Moore may have just carried on her own affair with one of Ashton?s younger friends. A source reveals that Demi hooked up with sexy actor Ben Hollingsworth, according to In Touch magazine.
Demi, 48, met Ben, 27, when he moved from Canada to LA. He was a struggling actor and Demi made it her responsibility to help bolster his career.
?He was star starstruck from the start,? the insider tells In Touch. Demi and Ben formed a ?fast friendship? that quickly developed into something more.
Demi took Ben around Hollywood introducing him to everyone and showing him the hippest spots, shares the source. She even introduced him to Ashton, and helped Ben with his role on The Beautiful Life on the CW (Ashton, 33, was the executive producer of the show). ?She helped him a lot,? says the source.
Ben was even invited to party at Demi?s house with his friends. ?They smoked a lot of weed,? reveals the source. ?Demi [who didn't smoke] was cool about it all. She and Ashton acted like teenagers.?
Then, one night Demi gave Ben a ride after a night out partying. ?They wound up having sex in the back of the car,? says the insider. ?It just kept going from there.?
?[Ben] said she was really hot and she took care of him,? adds the insider.
But as Ben grew closer to Ashton, he eventually called it quits with Demi. ?He was getting to be better friends with Ashton and he felt bad about it,? shares the source. That?s when Demi went back to Ashton.
[From Hollywood Life]
It sounds like the way a father would try to seduce one of his daughter?s friends, right? Demi is the mom who tries to nail her husband-son?s friends. Which is gross, but not illegal considering this Ben guy?s age. Here?s Ben:
Cute, right? I would probably hit that. But not after it hit Demi.
Us Weekly also has an interesting story about ?how Demi Moore?s insecurities are preventing her from letting go of Ashton Kutcher.? A source tells Us Weekly, ?She?s totally humiliated and angry, but she doesn?t want him to leave her.? Over the years, ?He became the more bankable star, while she got older. She?d try to be fun and wacky because that was his thing. They hang out with all his friends. Even though he?s in the wrong, their friends are all Team Ashton? they were his friends first. When you meet her, the insecurities just spill out. She needs to get help ASAP.? I agree. She does need to get help.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
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| | Ashton Kutcher has been cheating on Demi Moore since a month into their marriage | | Added 13 years ago | Source: CeleBitchy |
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Most of these photos are from 2005, except for the one that says 2003 in the text below it
Back in 2005, right after Ashton Kutcher married Demi Moore, two guys claimed to have hacked into Ashton’s e-mail and posted what they said were his voicemail messages. You can read the story and hear the messages here, and there’s a very explicit one from a girl describing having sex with Ashton and telling him she’d like to do it again some time and bring a friend along. (That’s the fourth link on the right column on this page.) Ashton’s team dismissed the messages as a hoax, but The National Enquirer’s gossip columnist, Mike Walker, did some homework and was able to verify that at least one of the messages were authentic. That means that the message from the chick describing how she loved blowing Ashton was probably real, and that Ashton was cheating on Demi just a month into their marriage. Here’s the article from the Enquirer, and it’s a little hard to follow but you get the gist:
Remember when pranksters hacked Ashton’s cell phone and posted online a sex-drenched voice mail message from a female? Ashton’s reps denied all - but I blew the story wide open after listening to another of his messages from a Vegas hotel confirming reservations for “Ashton Kutcher” in the Penthouse Suite. I phoned the hotel, never uttered Kutcher’s name, recited the confirmation number I’d heard and BINGO!… the clerk said “Mr. Kutcher, right?” Then she quickly stammered: “Wait, what’s the code word?” Hello-o! That’s how I proved Ashton’s phone had recorded “phone sex” from a salivating babe savoring an alleged intimate encounter with Demi’s new spouse.
[From The National Enquirer, print edition, October 31, 2011]
So Ashton had an M.O., he’s been doing this for years on the side, and the women we’ve heard from so far are only the ones who have talked. When someone cheats a few years into a relationship, it’s surely devastating to the person that was betrayed but there are ways for the cheater to justify it, as weak as those excuses are. Things like: times were tough, we’ve grown apart over the years, I craved the excitement, etc. The fact that Ashton was cheating on Demi almost from the moment they were married just goes to show that he’s a cheating douche, and that he was going to get his rocks off on the side no matter what was going on in his marriage. I really do feel sorry for Demi now. This makes me wonder how much she knew, too. Did Ashton confess to that one chick who went public last year, and did they go to counseling and work through it? Obviously he didn’t change at all. She needs to realize that the guy is a dog, he was lying to her for years, and that she deserves better. I hope that it’s true that she’s just pretending that she wants to save the relationship and that she’s already checked out, but I doubt it.
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